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  My Book With Bible Stories - 91 stories of murder and rape to be used as bedtime stories for your little children

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  "no honey, daddy doesn't like this book.

  do you have a nice book we can read?.

  as far as i know my wife and i agree this book would be off-limits.

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  Half banana

  The only thing the Watchtower cult wants is to indoctrinate its membership to be loyal to them.

  This is what all their literature and broadcasting is about. The Watchtower cult does not care a fig for the well being of its children for all they might protest the opposite in the patronizing and vacuous comments they say about children. A good demonstration of this is how they show no compassion or arrange for remedial help for the victims of child abuse in their ranks, the only thing that matters to the JW org is their attempt to maintain a squeaky clean reputation.

  If they cared about children they would understand that young humans have certain criteria for proper development, as scientists such as Piaget and others determined.One developmental step at a time and in the right order, starting with the profound security of unconditional love from the parents. then building the child's confidence in negotiating the real physical world then language, numeracy and reasoning correctly, all done with the child's welfare in mind to enjoy living with others in the larger world outside the family.

  The primitive JW approach of graphic moral tales to make the child fear God is probably the worst method for building an open confident and happy child, it does not lead to an independent and self confident adult. Add to this a doomsday mentality and the religious trap of never being good enough, what you get are grown up JWs with low self esteem, poor education and a warped view of reality.

  The JW org is a toxic, self interested, self righteous cult which harms people, don't ever listen to any of their stupid stories!
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  My Book With Bible Stories - 91 stories of murder and rape to be used as bedtime stories for your little children

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  "no honey, daddy doesn't like this book.

  do you have a nice book we can read?.

  as far as i know my wife and i agree this book would be off-limits.

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  Half banana

  The first film I saw at a cinema was Bambi. I was three and a half, I thought it was terrific-- until Bambi's mother was killed by a hunter then I thought this is just too sad, what! no! can't be, the mother gets killed?

  Yes children's stories always used to be frightening, perhaps it taught children to be realistic about the fragility of life but really those horror tales for kids did not encourage growing up or teach how to become independent or how to deal with the world. The moral was usually to do what you are told or else you get punished!

  Grimm and his brother encapsulated European folk tales which had deeper psychological insights drawn from the human consciousness and set in a timeless world of pre-scientific magic. It is part of our collective literary heritage.

  I think that there was a threshold for nasty children's tales and that was the Second World War. As an example take the UK Rupert books. Before the war they presented sinister shadowy almost gothic tales, post war, with enough suffering and brutality recently on our doorsteps, the tone improved and the stories became lighter and more child oriented. I would go as far to say they were much 'happier'.

  The Bible however relishes revenge, divine judgement, smashing children against walls if you disagree with God etc.Children, like women and wives were just the belongings of the husband to dispose of at will. How could the WT Society (as it was then known when they produced My Book of BS) how could they imagine that you can expose children to such outlandish material for their benefit?

  Of course it wasn't for the benefit of the young, the only result would be indoctrination and stunting children's development, and that is what has happened. JWs become dependent on the JW org who in turn depend on the "absolute goodness" of the Bible and remain stuck in the cult like brainless limpets on a rock.
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  Todays Text - Classic example of how to twist scripture to your own ends

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you received a spirit of adoption as sons, by which spirit we cry out: “abba, father!”—rom.

  those who have received this special invitation from god do not need another witness from any other source.

  they do not need someone else to verify what has happened to them.

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  The GB must think that logic is from the Devil, I expect they may start teaching this soon!
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  The true essence of the Bible—there is some problem with it?!

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the famous aesop fable, we read about a fox who unsuccessfully tried to get some grapes, but at last had to give it up, and walked away with his nose in the air, saying: “i am sure they are sour.”.

  someone made a second part to this story.

  fox did some rehearsal in the night and came on to the scene next day, and jumped with difference and got the grapes from the vine tree, and he began to eat to his full capacity.

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  Half banana

  Religions are castles of sand built on sand! Nearly all of the Bible is borrowed from earlier literature nearly always from other cultures. The sacrifice of Christ the son of the Sun God was a trope of the pagan saviour cults from Asia, North East Africa and the middle East.
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  How to disorder a JW (family) chat

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we all know the moment that a nice family chat is moving to the propaganda game.. sister in law saying that jw.org is the highest ranked website, cousing saying that the new hq is energy neutral, aunt stating that jw have the best education.... what can we say on these moments?.

  that br splane just likes these new light ideas?.

  that a jw.org video stated that jw use the name jehovah because people recognize this name?.

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  Half banana

  Or: Have you ever considered the other side of the coin?
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  How to disorder a JW (family) chat

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we all know the moment that a nice family chat is moving to the propaganda game.. sister in law saying that jw.org is the highest ranked website, cousing saying that the new hq is energy neutral, aunt stating that jw have the best education.... what can we say on these moments?.

  that br splane just likes these new light ideas?.

  that a jw.org video stated that jw use the name jehovah because people recognize this name?.

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  Half banana

  Gorby you might like to point out that for a whole lifetime they taught that the generation who saw 1914 would also see the end of the old world system. In other words the bulk of all of their preaching was false! They never get a prophetic date right.The basis for setting the year 1914 is wrong and 1914 was supposed to be the start of the paradise on Earth which was the reason for starting the whole useless religion in the first place. Nothing they say is worth knowing.

  Just to cast a damper on the party next time!
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  1 hour 14 minute ph call from coordinator last night ?

  by Chook in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i didn't recognise his number , cordial talk for 2 minutes then what can i say , the chook rose to the occasion.

  i will relay main points but the order is not necessarily correct.

  he wants to visit with an other elder ( i live in two states 2/3 of time in a new house in their territory, but they don't know address yet ).

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  Half banana

  You told him Chook! trouble is, JWs are not interested in truth only in loyalty to the cult.
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  The Evolutionary History of the Apple

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is a fascinating study of how our modern apples evolved.

  the study involved examining the genomes of the array of apple varieties, including related types of fruit.. from it we can learn that the fruit types we know today, may not have existed in ancient times.

  from its origins in what we now call kazakhstan, it seems the original fruit changed as trees grew in many places along the great ancient network of trade routes we call the silk road, and as different varieties evolved in various ways.. a readable version of the story can be found in popular archaeology:.

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  Half banana

  Thanks Fts, the domestication of the apple from the wild species is an interesting case of finding naturally occurring varieties which have special or desirable qualities and their genes have then been kept in circulation by cultivating them. The silk road makes sense because it runs through many climate zones which apples tolerate well.

  We all tend to judge things from the base of the familiar and in the UK we have many varieties of apple which are two hundred years old but hop across the channel to France and it is a surprise to find that the varieties, especially for cider and Calvados production, are often Gallo-Roman i.e. two thousand years in cultivation.

  Btw the wild apple (aka crab) in Europe Malus sylvestris can be distinguished in hedgerows by having all white blossom whereas the domesticated apple which has often found its way there, has pink edges to the petals.
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  Exjw :)

  by tepidpoultry in

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  Half banana

  Spot the ex JW!

  (Larson; my hero)
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  Where were the Angels ?

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i do not wish to trivialize or minimize the horrific murder of a jw lady in finland as she handed out mags etc from her cart in finland, but do you remember the stories we used to hear of angels protecting jw's in their "preaching" work ?.

  where were the angels when this lady needed them ?

  watching from heaven ?.

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  Half banana

  You're right Zeb, the mistake is on the part of the GB fostering the idea that angels or God's magic spirit are behind events. It is their job to deceive the sheep--that is how a cult works.

  Angels and spirits are little conceits to calm the minds of religious people who are stuck at the nursery stage of intellectual development.

  When I became a JW two local pioneers were mowed down by a car and killed on their bikes while out in service, so I learned the point early.